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Sun May 01, 2011 11:54 pm
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Dead Meat
Joined: 29 Apr 2011
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Location: Martinborough, South Wairarapa, New Zealand
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Just WoW.... the last two episodes of Doctor Who (The Impossible Astronaut & Day of the Moon) i not since a better Sci-fi show since Stargate Universe, Doctor who the best series on television.
So now to the last two episodes, so who do you think the little girl is? who in the Day of the Moon started to regenerate, assuming the little girl is the only person we've seen in the spacesuit it looks like she's the one who kills the Doctor (aged 920), and why did the Doctor send a letter to himself if he knew he was about to die, also when River Song kissed the Doctor she realized it was not him, maybe a clone or the Master.
And why did the Silence want to get to the moon? |
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Sun May 01, 2011 11:59 pm
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Zombie
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Location: Millerton, N.Y
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| They may have just wanted the NASA spacesuit, also where did the CIA get the black Time blocks from, i take it was not from the Silence as they had no weapons or technology maybe they crash landed on Earth and it was destroyed. |
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Mon May 02, 2011 12:04 am
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Digita Nasties Actor
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| Well it's all still a very big mystery, but it seems to have been to protect the Time-Child, both episodes are paradoxical until the part 13 is shown. |
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Mon May 02, 2011 12:11 am
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Day Walker
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Location: Bad Wörishofen, Germany
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| Why did Canton chase down Amy and Rory, yet no-one from FBI checked if they were still alive? |
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Mon May 02, 2011 2:17 pm
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Well for one i don't think that River Song is the Doctors Daughter, I highly doubt that the British Broadcasting Corporation would include a incest storyline considering Professor River Song clearly has a romantic relationship with the Doctor, and may or may not be married to the Doctor.
Also in the two-parter "Silence in the Library and Forest of the Dead" after she is killed the Doctor uploads her consciousness into a computer, this may also play a part in the show later.
And if River Song was a Time Lord she would have regenerated in Forest of the Dead which she did not, so she is not the Little girl in Day of the Moon.
But i do get the feeling that the little girl is Romanadvoratrelundar (Romana), also my other conclusion is that Amy Pond is pregnant after all the Doctor scanned her in the TARDIS and the baby was in some kind of temporal vortex in and out of sinks with reality, which the Silence may have implanted as Amy Pond was with the Silence for two day before the Doctor turned up.
So what we do know is the little girl may be her child, as we seen a photograph of Amy Pond and the little girl, and the spacesuit was some kind of cloaked TARDIS (chameleon arch) to keep the girl alive or maybe to stop her regenerating.
The Doctor knows who sent the letter, as we know he's not that stupid, also if someone else in the Doctor’s company is a Time Lord why can’t he sense them? and why does the little girl wants help, and then keep hiding from everyone? and why did she say I can fix it before regenerating.
Some people may mistake them as plot-holes and not as deliberate to continue the story arc in later episodes. |
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Mon May 02, 2011 2:41 pm
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Dead Meat
Joined: 20 Sep 2006
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In the Doctor Who Universe, you don't need to be Galifreyan to be able to regenerate, as some Aliens who were not Galifreyan had regeneration technology in the first season in the 1960's.
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| and why does the little girl wants help, and then keep hiding from everyone? and why did she say I can fix it before regenerating. |
She must have some instinctual awareness of being a Time Lord or have some kind of regeneration technology, when she starts to die. |
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Mon May 02, 2011 2:48 pm
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Dead Meat
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Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada
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| So did anyone else noticed that Amy Pond and River Song getting sick after seeing the silence? nobody else did after seeing them, but Amy Pond said she's was pregnant to the Doctor but this also implies River Song was pregnant too? |
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Mon May 02, 2011 2:55 pm
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Day Walker
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Considering all the facts and with all the craziness that happened during last series, i think all of these theories are plain wrong, I don’t believe the little girl is River Song as so many people are quick to jump to that conclusion, and are just red herrings to lead people in the opposite direction.
And whatever happened to the Doctor’s daughter Jenny from the series 4. |
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Mon May 02, 2011 3:09 pm
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| What did The Silence have to do with the Big Band, Pandorica and cracks in the universe, and what was the Voice on TARDIS speakers was that The Silence contacting the Doctor and what for? |
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Mon May 02, 2011 3:46 pm
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| What did The Silence have to do with the Big Band, Pandorica and cracks in the universe, and what was the Voice on TARDIS speakers was that The Silence contacting the Doctor and what for? |
Prisoner Zero warned the Doctor about the Silence.
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"The cracks in the skin of the universe – don’t you know where they came from? You don’t, do you? The Doctor and the TARDIS doesn’t know. The universe is cracked. The Pandorica will open. Silence will fall.
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| We ran from the Silence, There were cracks. Some were tiny, some were as big as the sky. Through some we saw worlds and people. And through others we saw silence…and the end of all things. We fled to an ocean like ours and the crack snap shut behind us. Saturnyne was lost. |
And in the A Christmas Carol Xmas special Abigail’s song had a message for the Doctor it was unknown if she had seen the silence.
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When you’re alone, silence is all you see.
When you’re alone, silence is all you’ll be.
Give me your hand and come to me.
When you are here, music is all around.
When you are near, music is all around.
Open your eyes, don’t make a sound.
Let in the shadow, let in the shadow,
Let in the light of your bright shadow.
Let in the shadow, let in the shadow.
Let in the light of your bright shadow. |
The Silence are fantastic and insanely creepy, maybe the Silence came though the cracks in the universe at the start of time, and are from a parallel universe, Doctor Who is just starting to get better with more complex plots and less gun-ho and disposable plots i just hope that the people who are complaining about the show with it over complex plots don't get the show dumbed-down or in the worst case scenario get Doctor Who taking off air, which is something the American audience found hard too follow with shows like Stargate Universe as they just wanted a dumb action show not real Sci-Fi, shame it got canceled as it was the best North American Sci-fi on TV. |
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Mon May 02, 2011 4:38 pm
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Zombie
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| So did anyone else noticed that Amy Pond and River Song getting sick after seeing the silence? nobody else did after seeing them, but Amy Pond said she's was pregnant to the Doctor but this also implies River Song was pregnant too? |
The TARDIS scanner fluctuating between indicating Amy was and was not pregnant, so the scan was 'inconclusive.
But my main concern is that what the scan showed, which could leave people watching feeling the plot was incomplete and not wanting to wait until part 3 for the answer and just stop watching the show. |
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Mon May 02, 2011 4:46 pm
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Mon May 02, 2011 4:59 pm
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Zombie
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| I'm really curious to know how Americans received the new series , I just thought they may find it too low budget or British for many to watch. |
I hella like both Doctor Who and Red Dwarf yes both look very low budget to U.S. shows, but that because the BBC can make a whole series of Doctor Who for what two or three episodes of Star Trek Voyager cost.
I did note that some of cast said gasoline instead of petrol, which what you English call gasoline right?
And 200 years without a regeneration? is matt smith the last doctor? well he did get killed? |
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Mon May 02, 2011 5:12 pm
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| I did note that some of cast said gasoline instead of petrol, which what you English call gasoline right? |
That was more to with Roy being in America, so maybe that why he used the Americanisms, and less to do with bad writing by Steven Moffat.
What i did find funny was that every time the CIA turned up they started pulling out Guns and wanting to plug a hole in anything that moved.
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| And 200 years without a regeneration? is matt smith the last doctor? well he did get killed? |
Well the first incarnation of the doctor played by William Hartnell, was 400 years plus so age has nothing to do with the regenerations, only when the Doctor is near death or is badly hurt will he regenerate. |
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Dead Meat
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The biggest mystery in Doctor Who right now is who River Song really is right now, The future Doctor time-line with his acceptance of death at the hands of the Astronaut how did the Silence managed to hijack the TARDIS at the end of the last season to cause it to blow-up on a date set by the silence, whatever the story behind River Song is, whoever she turns out to be we have not had the whole story so far.
And the River, Pond names shows some kind of relationship between the two. |
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